Guest: Anne-Laure Le Cunff, Founder of Ness Lab & Neuroscientist

Anne-Laure Le Cunff once believed the pinnacle of success was a coveted role at Google. Then came an unexpected health scare. In this candid conversation, Anne-Laure shares how that jolt led her to leave corporate life, study neuroscience, and found Ness Labs, a community helping thousands rethink productivity through curiosity and “Tiny Experiments.”

We unpack the hidden burnout that strikes high-achievers who love their work; her PACT framework (Purposeful, Actionable, Continuous, Trackable) for stress-free experimentation; and the magic of Kairos—those perfect, present-moment snapshots, like a beam of sunlight hitting a cup of cacao. Anne-Laure explains why small tests beat big life overhauls, how to sit comfortably with uncertainty, and what’s next on her experimental roadmap.

If you’re questioning your own path or craving sustainable ways to grow without grinding, this episode offers science-backed insights—and an invitation to design life on your own terms.